Spring Fling: (scrimmage no.1, part I)

The best Qb on the field on Monday … was???

“Give a man to fish and he eats for a day.”

“Teach a man to fish……………….”
-Confucius-

Whole lotta teaching left to do after what I just witnessed on Monday afternoon down in Blacksburg Virginia folks. With the emphasis on the “whole lot” part –make no mistake on that. This offense is weeks, if not months if not games, if not October away from being right. The defense however looked pretty dang tight; and that was sans two all-A.c.c. performers (Tyler and Exum) mind you. Special Teams is really only one dynamic punter away from being right. As the new Jenny Craig (i.e. slimmer) Cody is also an all-A.c.c. caliber kicker, and the return game enjoys speed to burn.

Ergo, if scrimmage No.1 taught us anything, it taught us that … this year is all about the Virginia Tech offense. It also taught us our word for the day… as today’s word is: under.

un·der  (ndr)prep.

  1. a. In a lower position or place than: a rug under a chair.
    b. To or into a lower position or place than: rolled the ball under the couch.
  2. Beneath the surface of: under the ground; swam under water.
  3. As in bet the under on any Vegas point-spread total on any 2013 Virginia Tech football game! Bet it now. Bet it blind. Thank me later.

Odds and Ends:
A fun little place-kicking deal was watching the Kicker(s) line up perpendicular to the crossbar and attempts to kick the football into the nearest upright! Talk about a slim margin of error, how about slim and none and none just left town. That’s a 2-3/8″ target if you are keeping score at home. Good luck on that to all of you would be  backyard warriors.

Also of curiosity was seeing #92 (Maddy) and #98 (D.Hop) take their warm-up chops on a couple of FG-attempts. No word yet on the validity of such; however I’ll be betting the under on that one as well.

Then there was the new N.B.A. looking groin stretch exercise which was done while in the midst of a backwards jog; of all things. You could just hear the giggling from the team on this one, and in lieu of being any more politically incorrect –than I already am- I’ll just leave the commentary to your imagination. However I will hint you this much … it was not rated PG-13 or Disney Channel savvy.

Bull in the Ring: (to begin the scrimmage)
Recall that this is a very very very truncated version of Bull in the Ring and that’s not fair to real live Braham Bull’s everywhere. However, in what I can only describe as a very watered-down Board Drill (less the board of course) we had the following pre-scrimmage match-ups take shape…

  • #83 C.Meyer (back-up Wr) vs. #6 (White) some kinda back-up Db.
    Not much to see here though #6 (whose name is unlisted on the current Hokiesports football roster webpage) clearly urbanized Mr. Meyer good and hard.
  • #29 (Maroon) back-up Fb, Fuller Hoepner, vs. #37 R.V.D.
    Jaw dropping as this may read, R.V.D. got dump-trucked as #29,  a Fuller Hoepner filled in on R.V.D. and wasted Ronny Vandyke. And it really wasn’t even close.
  • #63 Lawrence Gibson vs. #99 James Gayle!
    “Let’s get it on!” –Hall of fame Boxing referee Miles Lane-And that is precisely what these two headhunters did! Not once, not twice, three full times of John Wayne vs. John Wayne mano-a-mano personal warfare. The first two were too close to call. Although J.Gayle did win the third and final round when he scored a knockdown as he buried all 3o3 lbs. of big ole six-three on a reverse pancake, that was closer to the home team sideline right at the end of the drill.
S.W.A.T. team 1o1:

#16 and should prepping for his Senior Prom at high school, and yet one Carlis Parker got some reps at Wr of all things. Sources recently said that Mr. Parker: “…has a little Vick in him.” While I can not report having witnessed that, I am lead to believe that that is true and if that is the case, clearly this is a play-right-away kinda move. Such is pretty suggestive in-and-of itself and such suggests pretty good things for #16 long-term.

What did you guys think of seeing each and every Qb dressed out in a front-leg (typically the left-leg) leading edge fully hinged orange and black knee-brace? I’ve never, ever, never, ever seen a Qb Coach require that of each and every Qb in his cadre of Pivots?!? Such is inexplicable to me as you never ever hinge an otherwise perfectly useful joint, no matter how preventative this medicine may be on theoretical paper. Clearly this is a Loeffler pet move, though it is a baffling one to be sure. (p.s. tell me if you’ve ever heard of such down below: which coach and which team? TIA!)

Back-up place-Kicker #45 Brooks Abbot has a big big leg. He could make for a long-range FG attempter in a pinch as he does have range out beyond 55 yards and I’ve seen him make 60’somethings in practice off the tripod holder before. However, that low, boring line-drive approach can be blocked. Don’t believe me just ask #26 Desmond Frye who smartly snuffed out an Abbot attempt early on, on Monday. (see: above pic)

#23, Der’Woun Green had one of the more jarring downfield hits on Malleck from his Fs position early on. Der’Woun brought some wood with him at a relatively mere 5`10“ and 187 lb. termite frame. Which is quite undersized to be a big-time Fs in D-1 B.C.S. terms. Der’Woun had a history of fumble causing hits in high school and he inflicted some measure of causality on Malleck on this one indeed.

Loeffler Offense: (early X’s and O’s)

  • shorter to mid-range dink-n-dunk approach to passing
  • more parts 3-4 Wide and less parts Te
  • (very) multiple
  • very shifty or motioning pre-snap
  • far more “HARD” counts (watch for opposing offsides this year)
  • H-backs and Fb’s, sometimes two at a time
  • Some I, some Pro, and some I/Veer hybrid or broken-T looks as well
  • Chop-stepping Fb breadcrumb trails rushing plays pre-snap via cheating or shading the play L or R
  • Lotta slant or downhill blocking
  • ALL predicated upon the 45° jab-step to begin
  • much narrower passing splits on a collapsing Cup
  • Ergo, Footwork is at a premium here
  • Lottsa second-layer folding into hook-turn-n-seal blocks
  • Some quicker hitting Wham or Iso plays as well (WAR the return of “I-formation, 20-Dive on one, ready break!!!”)
  • Tb’s split-out in the slot and then motioning back inside into an I-formation alignment, of all things
Lotta heart in this one — just not a lotta mass.

Trey Edmunds:
Is he (now) Tb1? (the starting Virginia Tech Tailback in modern football parlance)

Prolly –or in other words, I’m pretty dubious that Holmes or J.C.Coleman can ultimately beat Trey out. Why however is much more interesting; as Trey is not without attributes or flaws alike. Holmes did look a bit stronger, bigger, better running inside; to his credit. He had a bit more swivel in his hips as well; which is likewise to #20’s credit. Running J.C.Coleman inside at 177 lbs. is nearly unfair and possibly encroaching on callous at best. J.C.C., try as he might, is just not in a favorable match-up on the inside, where he routinely gives away 50 to 130+ lbs. on the inside! That may or may not be fair, though I do have the Second Law of Newtonian Mechanics on my side, just as J.C.C. does have acceleration on his side. However he simply does not have the internal rushing metrics or mass. Trey however does.

Jump-ball 1o1:

Though it is also most curious to see that Trey could easily hang 7-10 lbs. of additional right-mass on his frame; as his northern hemisphere is still a bit undeveloped in terms of winning an arms-race on the inside. Nevertheless, and make no mistake about it, Trey is our best inside-runner, not named LT3. Trey is also tall. As he runs in a very erect posture and blocks in the same. This is somewhat reminiscent of Eric Dickerson and that reads pretty dang good if you ask me. However, if you query me even further, that very same high-in-the-saddle approach will eventually get Trey decked on the inside. And he really does need to learn how to get lower and use a pretty fair to middling sized frame in pass-protection where he is almost malleable or way too reactive in terms of letting the contact come to him. That’s not a posture becoming such a right-sized Tb. Trey however did carry the football with a much greater sense of classical 3-points urgency; sans the 2012 chicken-wing looking carries way out away from his stomach/latissimus dorsi. So that’s encouraging as his pigskin integrity has most definitely improved. As methinks that one man turnover margin just begging to happen, and a moderate lack of play-bock acumen is what caused him to be fitted for a r-shirt last season. Additionally, Trey did amass at least 20 odd Y.A.C. or yards after contact on Monday down in the New River Valley. As Trey got through several holes that were really only seams and several seams that were no better than cracks –all on his very own. The final matter that I find rather intriguing about Trey is that he is the veritable anti-thesis of so-called “game-speed”. Some guys may not clock all that fast in the 40-yard dash though they are fast enough on game-day. Cyrus Lawrence of early 1980’s Chicago Maroon fame leaps to mind. Trey however is basically the exact opposite; as the next time I behold his virtually team leading 4.37 forty-yard dash time in-game or at a scrimmage will be the first.

Now, do be sure, our 2013 running game will almost assuredly improve because of Trey Edmunds; the only real question is just how much?

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“You can’t have fun without the fundamentals.” -Magic Johnson-

Qb or not to Qb, that is the (Te) question:
Unless you live under a rock, or have very recently been hit in the head by a rather large rock; there was no question who was the better Virginia Tech Qb on Monday afternoon in Lane Stadium. I’ll give you a hint, it was not LT3.


 When I was walking out with one of my sources someone who looked a lot like me actually remarked: “…in a lot of ways, LT3 just picked up right where he left off in 2012.” Basically as a spray-paint can of a Qb; albeit it one with the addition of the ability to throw a so-called “hanger” of a deep ball or one that simply hangs up in the air way too long and therefore gives the defense time to break on the ball. LT3 was however a bit less inaccurate on his short to intermediary throws this year compared to the Rutgers bowl game. His misses –which were numerous- were not as severe, especially when it comes to hi-lo or L-R on short to mid-range throws. His long-ball however is remarkable, as in it is remarkable how someone with that kinda raw, bionic smooth bore howitzer of an arm can underthrown, or hang-up that may passes? LT3 was better later on in the day; when his whispered bad-back (finally) began to loosen up a bit. Leal however was better all day long.

#6, Mark Leal makes good, concise, crisp reads which allows him to make the very same throws in the short to intermediary passing attack. Leal had what should have been (if not for the Umpire’s whistle) the sickest move of the day when he made a positively Earl “the Pearl” Monroe ‘esque reverse inside spin more that was CCW (or counterclockwise) of all things late in the afternoon. Some of the fans had already left the building at this point; so some of you may not have seen this; though do allow me to assure you that it was ill and that it only reaffirmed that Leal has the best pocket-vision I’ve seen outta a Virginia Tech Qb on a Virginia Tech practice field since somebody named Michael Vick.

To take that a step further, I can (finally) see why Mark Leal was none to happy with his playing-time (or lack thereof) last year. As he clearly out-played LT3 on Monday; a blind man could see it with a cane. Although it is most difficult to envision Frank Beamer approving of opening up the Qb competition, much less of ever benching LT3 in favor of Leal. No matter how the early-returns or objective results stack up thus far. Some of you will have me publish that this Auburn offense is brand new, and that LT3 and this War Eagle retread offense need more time. That’s fair enough; however is it not also fair to point out that the offense is even newer to Mark Leal who receives few repetitions as Qb2 or as the back-up Qb at Virginia Tech? See what I mean? Or in other words what I mean to say is that I’m left wondering how many more games LT3 has left at Qb (after he turns pro); that is the question?

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     To find out we shall have to ask Russell’s Teapot to shed some light on this interrogative; even if we have to wait until this time next year to find out how all of that tastes. Recall that Russell’s Teapot is basically code for the fact, that the inability of critics to prove something wrong does not authentically prove something right in the first place. In the classical philosophical or rhetorician sense, pocket religious philosopher, one Bertrand Russell once argued “…that if he claims that a teapot orbits the Sun somewhere in space between the Earth and Mars, it is nonsensical for him to expect others to believe him on the grounds that they cannot prove him wrong.”[1]

Or in other words, LT3’s division-one quarterback critics can not be proven correct until after LT3 switches professional positions and makes an N.F.L. roster move to tight-end. In the meantime everything else is Lady Grey and therefore everything else is all wet. As there are those who believe that LT3 is a Sunday Qb every bit as much as there are those who believe that LT3 the Qb actually peaked in 2011. Mark Leal however believes that he should have been given a 2012 shot, sooner, rather than 2014 later.

To put it another way, after such an jagged close to the 2012 season, an uneven at best scrimmage no.1 was entirely what LT3 did not need. As in not at all; as LT3’s amazing physical attributes, his oversized small-forward talents and his confidence or self-trust appeared to have picked up right where they twenty-twelve left off.

(EDITORs note: MUCH more by Thursday, including the oLine, the dLine and the defense in general)

LET’s GO!”

HOKIES!

bourbonstreet**

 

 


[1] From Wikipedia, “Russell’s Teapot”, 03rd April 2013, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot 9th April 2013 A.D.

 

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  1. Great report. Not a knock but equally surprised by how easy of a read this was compared to some of your prior articles.

    I know LT has the intangibles and size but still shake my head at how the QB competition wasn’t more open last year. Coaches have no choice but to let LT start this year, but most championship caliber BCS programs don’t guarantee starting jobs to incumbents if they clearly haven’t produced and team record reflects it or there is some possibility the next guy up might be better. If Leal had the same measurables as a Sean Glennon or even Ike Whittiker me thinks this would be an open competition.

    1. It was very frustrating last year to see LT struggle in so many games. I’m not an expert by any means, but I wondered at the time why Leal wasn’t given a chance with either several series or a package of plays involving both players on the field.

        1. It is amazing how you guys moan and groan about the run blocking the pass blocking, then you want to cut LT right down to his ankles. And, somehow you expect him to turn last year around with only 4 days practice before the first scrimmage.

          Off with his head. Patience jackass patience.

    2. Thank you!

      And yah; that’s not umpossible.

      And I’ll actually extend that; -to me- it is more so the obverse of what you said.

      LT3 DOES have the measurables; and they are most attractive, alluring, and captivating indeed. Such is tough to resist; there is no denying the beauty of such.

      Odysseu sand his ears would melt.
      Such is the enticing siren song of a ~6`7“ approximately 260 lb. Qb.

      b.street

      1. No expert by any means and am not actively suggesting a change but I just don’t see what I would call QB instincts in LT3 and they seem so apparent in Leal. I am just not sure you can teach that. Leal may not get a real chance until 2014 and I will be interested to see how he does, could be interesting with it being the second year of the new O staff and the advantages that may bring to the whole lineup.

        1. Leal is the more instinctive Qb.
          He was also the better coached Qb coming up down in Florida in high school –and it shows.

          b-street

          1. Still, anyone who has watched him can see his limitations athletically. He’s not the same running threat and he doesn’t have the cannon of Logan Thomas (Remember that dart to Danny Coale LT3 fired at the end of the first half against GT in ’11? Leal just can’t do that). As much as I cringe whenever I hear the word “upside,” I can see why the coaches are sticking with Thomas. He’s the leader and he’s the more dangerous playmaker.

    3. Considering Thomas holds the school records for total offense and rushing TDs, not to mention he’s only the second QB in Tech history to throw for more than 3000 yards, I’d say he’s produced enough to keep his job. Especially is Sunseri was able to keep his at Pitt. Anyone who says Leal should be more than a solid backup to LT3 is clearly missing something (yup, lookin at you, b-street). The offense is more difficult to defend with LT3. Once he gets some mechanical stuff fixed up, which I believe it will sooner rather than later, he’ll be fine. Has everyone already forgotten 2011? The dude can play QB.

      1. So THAT’S what B-street said!!

        Who knew??

        My only language is English, but for the life of me, I can’t decipher “cutsie English” a la B-street.

        Sigh……….

    1. Yup.
      The Body
      Just like Jessie “the body” Ventura; I call it right down the middle.

      b.street

  2. Does Leal have the arm strength to really pressure the defense at the second and third level though? It’s great to be more consistent with the underneath routes, but if you aren’t threatening with deeper routes the secondary will start taking the “easy” throws away.

    Thomas is the better option even if Leal outperforms him in a spring scrimmage. He’ll allow the offense to be more explosive, while also making the running/short passing game easier to execute because of his great arm. Plus, Thomas is a much better rusher then Leal. Leal can move but he’s more of a scrambler, not really someone you can put a package around.

    IMHO

  3. Loeffler was at Auburn for 1 year. Why are you calling this an Auburn offense? Given where he’s been in his coaching career, isn’t this more likely better described as an older Michigan (Lloyd Carr) offense?

    1. Recency Effect.

      Though yah; it looks more Temple to me.
      (how he (Loeffler) was with the Owls to be direct).

      b.street

  4. Nice piece. Looking forward to more.

    Based on performance last year, I really don’t see why they aren’t opening up the QB competition. Seems that’s the theme for the offense this year, except at that key spot. I thought there were times it may have helped LT3 to see Leal in there. Competition breeds performance. Step up or step out.

    1. I believe #29 who took on RVD in the ring is Fuller Hoepner 6’2″ 249 FB.

      1. Ah-ha!

        And thank you Sir.

        Will change that right now———>b.street

    2. I would open it up.

      However, I also know that pressure does two things….

      …makes diamonds, or bursts pipes; and 2012 was leaky indeed.

      b.street

      1. Better to find the diamonds and fix the leaky pipes before you get a face full of water and lose your fortune.

        1. OMG OMG the sky is falling the sky is falling …. it’s a good thing none of the guys on here are coaches.

  5. Great article…Keep’em Rollin ! And you’re right about the QB’s , even the part about FB . Shame the new OC will get caught in the middle of Favorites…We have that problem here at VT. Not playing the best…

    1. Sunk Cost 1o1 Sir.

      It would be very high -though not umpossible- to change now.

      b..street

  6. When i was in Pensacola Florida at the Navy’s Aviation Officer Candidate School we had a guy in our class who ran the marathon for the US in the Olympics. There was a 1.8 mile cross country that had to be run in 12 minutes. The marathon runners time was not that great and the Marine Corp drill instructors were giving him a hard time. His response? He doesn’t warm up and get going until the 10th mile.

    This is the first scrimmage after 4 days of practice and all three of you guys are screaming “the sky is falling”. As i said in another post .. patience and techsideline is an oxymoron.

    1. I was counseling the Pay MB to lower their expectations just last week.

      Especially for Grimes.
      Dood does not even know who his starting Center is.

      That’s gonna take a while, games plural into 2013 in my book.

      I don’t know if that’s code for patience; or just a very slow-start?
      We shall see…

      bigeiii

      1. yes well April to November is a long ways, just like a marathon race. In a golf game if you triple bogie on the first hole, it’s no time to panic. There are 17 more holes to go.

        I noticed TechHokie13 reminding everyone that LT holds a few VT records for his play during the 2011 season. So let’s give the man a few breaks.

        Just once maybe this board would not eat it’s young.

          1. Maybe yes, maybe no, but that determination or judgement should not come after 4 days of practice and the first scrimmage. Surely you agree with me in that regard.

  7. Is this b-street version 1.1? Read it and didn’t get a headache.

    Great stuff! Can’t wait to read part II.

    1. Amazing what killing off CAPS Lock and at least a few (parentheses) can do.
      Thumbs UP

      Thank you!
      b.street

  8. I know I’ve seen it defined before but my b’street-ese has gotten rusty.

    What does WAR mean again? ex. (WAR the return of “I-formation, 20-Dive on one, ready break!!!”)

    1. Good question Sir.

      WAR is sporting vernacular for: in favor of…

      It’s genome is the Auburn War Damn Eagles chat in point of fact.
      (nice segue with our new Coaches, don’t you think?)

      b.street

  9. I think LT’s mind is tying him up. He’s had a lot of mentoring and coaching on what he’s doing wrong, etc. and that’s enough to mess up anybody. I think he’s thinking too much about the mechanics. But to be fair to Leal, I think the position should be up for grabs this year and not just given to LT. Leal has earned the right to compete for it.

    Love you articles B-Street, keep them coming! Always a funny read!

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